SEVA Meeting Minutes – October 2020
Minutes for the Oct. 13, 2020 meeting of the Seattle Electric Vehicle Association
The meeting was by Zoom, again arranged by Ed Mills.
Before the meeting was called to order, President Jay Donnaway reported on, among other things, Pacwesty/EV Works’ refrigerated van conversion. It’s ready for a soft delivery and it’s been tested hard.
Jay called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.. Kevin Boze issued the cry to order.
DRIVE ELECTRIC WEEK – Jay recounted a Drive Electric Week event in September in Steilacoom, joined by a Tesla that drove all the way from New Hampshire. Vice President Grace Reamer provided a briefing on a more full-fledged event, an all-electric cruise through Seattle on September 27 with 10 cars. This was a pandemic-compliant substitute for the typical Drive Electric Week fall events. Phil Skoog was able to help organize this drive. We had gorgeous fall weather for a cruise through a variety of neighborhoods. We started at Phinney Neighborhood Center, which has two Level 2 chargers. The cruise included Teslas, a Leaf, a Volt, a Bolt, a Karmann-Ghia conversion, and Ed’s purple Arcimoto. We drove with flashers and music playing out the windows and displaying NDEW banners and the oil-free miles signs. We passed a Model 3, who was delighted by the idea of Drive Electric Week, and got attention from a line waiting at a coffee shop. The cruise ended up at the EVSEs in the parking lot of South Seattle College in Georgetown.
Q&A:
- Will the proposed regulation apply to used cars? Matt said that the law simply prohibits model-year 2030 or later from using gasoline. Sales of any earlier model years, in any year, are not prohibited.
- Can a car be purchased in Idaho and registered in Washington? No, the law is specifically targeted at registrations.
- What is the definition distinguishing a car from a truck? The bill says 10,000 pounds, so SUVs and light-duty trucks will be included in the prohibition. Motorcycles and commercial vehicles won’t; Coltura doesn’t want to pick a fight with the Hell’s Angels.
- Will pickups and vans used for towing need to be electric? They will; they’re a large portion of vehicles statewide. Brian Hughes and Ed both spoke to issues around range for vehicles regularly commuting or driving heavy loads. Matt thought that range issues should be ameliorated by 2030, or in some cases, the relatively small inconvenience of additional time for charging stops is a trade-off for planetary sake. Ed noted that things might not work well if the responsibility is individual. Grace thought that a bill like this will give notice to employers that offering charging to employees is good for their business. But Ed said that some people don’t have a workplace; they just need to drive heavier vehicles to get their work accomplished. Andrea said that the state has a put lot into developing charging infrastructure and fleet requirements. Phil thought that trucks should follow Tesla’s model and bundle charging costs into the vehicle price.
- Can the effective date be changed to a fixed number of years after passage, instead of 2030? Matt thought they’d evaluate that, but given that Europe is moving towards 2030, so should Washington. Matt finished with the suggestion that this bill could get other players besides Tesla to invest in charging infrastructure.
SEVA MEMBER SURVEY – Andrea said the goal is collect demographic information about SEVA members to take to Olympia when talking to legislators. She’s put together a draft of 10 questions to cover demographics and opinions.
EV EVENT IN NOVEMBER – The Shop is offering an opportunity for a “Cars With No Coffee” event during COVID. The event will conform to pandemic restrictions including the five-person rule, where cars will park in front of The Shop, and socially distanced and masked people can ask questions about the EVs. It’s proposed for November 21, 10 a.m.-1 p.m.. The Shop has done about eight events, so they have it worked out. Grace said that she just learned that this event can be listed on Drive Electric Week’s page; it will be listed as a private event.
TESLA BATTERY DAY – Grace reported that Tesla has introduced a new form factor with their 4680 cylindrical batteries. This will much increase capacity and efficiencies. Elon thinks the efficiency will improve more than 50 percent. The factory is now producing Model 3s with these new batteries in them. Grace said it will be interesting to see what the new ranges may be. Tesla is also working with new chemistries; they’re trying to eliminate cobalt because it’s difficult to get.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
- Jay briefly demonstrated EV West’s web app in development, “the Portal.” This displays vehicle and charging information.
- PSE is sending SEVA $500 because we can’t do ride-and-drives with them this fall. Jay had discussed with them virtual ride-and-drives, which are still under discussion.
- Randy announced that Jack Rickard passed away this past August. His business, EVTV, is continuing.
MEMBERSHIP – Mark Yormark noted that we used to have membership drives, which haven’t happened recently because we have a large bank balance and funding from Seattle Foundation. But Mark thinks that we should continue paid memberships to foster unity. Jay thought it would be a good idea to keep official membership numbers. Jay said that the EAA is getting back in gear. Mark Schiller said he can give an update of the membership roster at the next meeting.
Jay adjourned the meeting at 8:32 PM. Post-meeting discussion included Jay’s recommending “The Long Way Up” on Apple TV, about an electric Harley adventure, replete with mishaps (such as lacking Level 1 charging), from Patagonia to Los Angeles. Mark and Charlie talked about their projects. Phil asked about getting salvage parts; un-rebuildable Model 3s and even Leafs are crazy expensive. Jay’s mother loves driving the iMiev.
Zoom Meeting Recording(s):