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Rjf: /* LGQ Pack */ Ran across this gem of a post to the evdl circa: [https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@listproc.sjsu.edu/msg04840.html Jun 16, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Lightning Ryan wrote].
2020-07-12T00:38:39Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">LGQ Pack: </span> Ran across this gem of a post to the evdl circa: [https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@listproc.sjsu.edu/msg04840.html Jun 16, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Lightning Ryan wrote].</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ran across this gem of a post to the evdl circa: [https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@listproc.sjsu.edu/msg04840.html Jun 16, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Lightning Ryan wrote].</ins></div></td></tr>
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Rjf: /* Charger */ found working GWS Triton product link
2020-07-12T00:28:01Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Charger: </span> found working GWS Triton product link</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Triton Details: [http://www.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">towerhobbies</del>.com/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">products/greatplanes</del>/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gpmm3150</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">html</del>]<br></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Triton Details: [http://www.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">greatplanes</ins>.com/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">discontinued</ins>/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gpmm3153</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">php GWS Triton</ins>]<br></div></td></tr>
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Rjf: (Product Page)
2020-07-11T23:48:24Z
<p>(<a href="/mw/User:Rjf/Tiger_Scooter/Product_Page" title="User:Rjf/Tiger Scooter/Product Page">Product Page</a>)</p>
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Rjf: /* Cycles TC1 */ let link be real name
2020-06-14T04:38:59Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Cycles TC1: </span> let link be real name</span></p>
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Rjf: /* Cycles TC1 */ This is no longer valid, replace with a screenshot of what it used to look like: <
2020-06-14T04:36:48Z
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Rjf: /* Cycles TC1 */ restored the cycle_graph but it likely will not run properly here.
2020-06-14T04:28:07Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Cycles TC1: </span> restored the cycle_graph but it likely will not run properly here.</span></p>
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Rjf: /* Milwaukee V28 Pack */ == Headway LiFePO4 Battery Kit == * 20180106 - Got some used cells of 8Ah for $160.96 ($10 each). Two(s) were "soft" and could not deliver over nor accept more than about 1A
2018-02-10T08:11:52Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Milwaukee V28 Pack: </span> == Headway LiFePO4 Battery Kit == * 20180106 - Got some used cells of 8Ah for $160.96 ($10 each). Two(s) were "soft" and could not deliver over nor accept more than about 1A</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The scooter was origonally equipt with a pair of 7.28 lb. 10Ah 12v batteries, similar to [http://www.electricrider.com/batteries.htm these].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The scooter was origonally equipt with a pair of 7.28 lb. 10Ah 12v batteries, similar to [http://www.electricrider.com/batteries.htm these].</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* @20180106 - Got some used cells of 8Ah for $160.96 ($10 each). However it appears I will not be able to assemble a full 16(s)eries 48V string. Two(s) were "soft" and could not deliver over nor accept more than about 1A or 0.125C ''(ie: 1/8 (C)apacity 1 Hour Rate)''. After initial cycle tests one of those I physically broke attempting to remove a threadall stub which leaked liquid electrolyte, the other soft cell also had the stub and no others did. The remaining still matched up well as three descent 4s 5~6Ah blocks and a pair of matched lowest capacity cells.</ins></div></td></tr>
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Rjf: /* Cycles */ Cycle #32
2008-10-15T18:24:53Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Cycles: </span> Cycle #32</span></p>
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Rjf: /* Cycles */ Dis #32
2008-10-14T18:02:59Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Cycles: </span> Dis #32</span></p>
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Rjf: /* Cycles TC1 */ more data, temp change and capacity at various rates.
2008-10-14T11:56:59Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Cycles TC1: </span> more data, temp change and capacity at various rates.</span></p>
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