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Thud, Thud, Thud...

Is this thing on? I'm just testing it out to see if the links are working!

How do you Join the SEVA E-Mail Thinggeeyyy.....

Where is the procedure to join the SEVA e-mail list....
People tell me it is hard to FIND, and/or hard to join

There are instructions at the top of the Maillist Archive page which is in the navigation menu. I've also added a bold link that sais Join our Maillist at the bottom of the main page. --Rjf 15:30, 7 Oct 2005 (CDT)

Elementary School kits

I am doing a science project on plug in cars at my private school in Ruston, Louisiana. My grandparents, Dick and Camille Brown attended the Battery Beach Burnout in Jupiter, Florida January 26 and 27th. During the conference sessions a reference was made to an elementary school in Washington that sells a kit that can be put together. I really need to find this resource. Please email me ccb (at) suddenlink (dot) net. Thanks so much. Ashton


Very intresting wiki site!... Thanx! -- 12:49, 15 Oct 2005 (CDT)

No problem, Spammer. New filters are in place to prevent this in the future. --Rjf 17:14, 30 Oct 2005 (CST)

xerbra by zap

Help does anyone know anything about the electric scooter/car called xerbra that Zap Electric is selling? The web site is short on information. Does anyone know a person who owns one? A Zap custmer service rep said they have sold out until December 2005 and they are made in China. The rep said they would post more information in October. But so far no more news. I am intrested in find out about quality and how does it ride. The price seems ok if I can replace my second car for city driving. What do the other people think? Let me know, thanks, Paul

K & W Charger BC 20

Does anyone Know where I can get my charger serviced and set-up in Seattle area preferably eastside? Thanks Denny

Try contacting some of the folks on the Local Resources page, or you could join our maillist and ask about it there, or come to our meeting Tomorrow (2nd Tuesdays). --Rjf 02:47, 8 Nov 2005 (CST)

HELP Navigation Lockout

I attempted to disable the Navigation Lock-Out on my 2005 Prius as explained in the User:Rjf/Prius_Modifications#Disabling_Navigation_Lock-Out There is no "Voice Icon" on the Menu Screen. Please advise. I really want to disable the Lock Out function and Prius representavies are oblivious.

I'm not sure where that information came from, I think someone else added it for me since there is no link to a source. I don't have the NAV so I can find out for myself... I'll see if I can find some other referances, you might check the Toyota Prius#Online_Communities_and_Discussion_Groups.

Maillist Subscriptions

Some anonymous subscriber wrote:

Please remove my address from your mailing list. I have tried repeatedly to stop these messages. I don't want to be on this list. -Thanks

Unfortunently without knowing who they are it's tough to help them directly. There are unsubscribe instructions at the bottom of each message in the footer. I've also updated and added an unsubscribe link to the Maillist homepage. --Rjf 19:59, 16 March 2006 (CST)

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Ride Electric Vehicles June 10 Vancouver BC Canada

See EVents 2006 06 10 --Rjf 21:06, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

nissan altra...availability

Hello SEVA,

Wondering if anyone has information about the Altra...where we might find a used one, especially.

Will be grateful if someone can point us to a website and/or physical address...or best source for more information.


We have a Nissan Altra page, but it's pretty sparce, I've added a link to the only page at Nissans site to mention the Altra and it seems to indicate that it's still arround although I don't believe that is the case. I also added a link to google for the Nissan Altra and there are quite a few matches, perhaps if you find some usefull resources you'll come back and add those links to our page!? --Rjf 18:41, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

The "E" switch

I recently have heard of the e switch for a Prius. Can someone tell me how I can get one installed on my 2004 Prius.-- 23:47, 10 July 2006 (CDT)

Try EAA-PHEV:Prius EV Mode Button for more information. --Rjf 00:52, 11 July 2006 (CDT)

Never recharge your hybrid again;

I am a individual that had back in the 80's found a way to make the electric car that never needs to be recharged. I was very simple. Now that the oil problem is back again, some of the ideas that I submitted to the car makers is now showing up in the new hybrids. I checked with my co-inventor and he didn't file for a patent either. SO, if you would care to hear how easy this is to make what the makes are making now have unlimited mileage, contact me. thanks

Feel free to share your ideas, I'm curious which of your ideas were used by the manufacturers in current hybrids? We actually want to plug in our hybrids (which we can not do currently without performing some PHEV modifications). As far as Electric Vehicles go, of course they plug in because electricity from the grid is their fuel source, we want more cars to use electricity instead of gas for their fuel. Either way you always need to "recharge" your car whether from an electric outlet or from a fuel pump at a gas station. --Rjf 18:47, 19 July 2006 (CDT)

To Much Information...


I have been looking on your site and you have a great deal of information...I'm sold, but I am unable to find a one stop solution. I would like to know if there are any After-Market Conversion Companies (similar to a Gemballa / AMG / or Zimmer) who will take a current European car and convert into a Hybrid / Electric...any information is greatly appreciated...


Smart Car EV

Check out -> United Kingdom -> models -> the smart EV.

I did a "register your interest". Hope they at least think about the USofA for the EV -- smart is supposedly coming to America next year, but I've heard rumors that the cars won't even be diesel. smart EV's are starting with the traditional business-only trials -- hope they don't just end up crushing them! Also check out the Canada site. Wish our friends in the Whitehouse didn't make it so hard to bring in a car from Canada!

Zortch Electric Design - Real or Not

Does anyone have information regarding Zortch Electric Design in Bellingham Washington. Have attempted to contact the company via their web site and a number listed on another web site, but have not heard back. The information and pictures of their products look great, but don't seem to be real or in earnest production at all. Any information would be appreciated. The web site distributes Smithfraud virus, be careful.

Battery Powered Lawn Mower

We have a gasoline riding, double blade wide lawn mower of about 6 years old. The 15 HP gas engine is failing, and we want to electrify it. We run it about 3 hours at a mowing. I used to own the electrified X19 Fiat, that we bought through Olaf Sundin, so are somewhat acquainted with what is involved. Chuck Hanna-Myrick home: 425-489-4025 cell: 206-276-7706 email: Chuck (at) Songaia (dot) com

converting lawnmower

I want to do a "starter" conversion on a Craftsman riding mower. Can someone tell me where to find parts?

New car merit

There are many ways to measure a good car-speed, reliability, safety, looks, efficiency, etc... But at the UW in Red Square on 5/9/ a student reminded me of a good oldie: "Does it pick up the chicks?" he asked. "Oh sure, I pick em up all the time" i answered. Good show, Steve et al. By Jeff ZAP Douthwaite

Charging Stations

Hi Steve, Here's an easy way to advance our agenda... Jan Drago is Chair of Transportation Committee, Jeff D.

----- Original Message -----
From: jeff douthwaite
To: Hon Jan Drago
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007
Subject: No Gas used!
Dear Jan,
I have turned in my gas burner car for a ZAP car. This is an all-electric design. I have driven 580 miles the last month and burned no gas or oil ! The ZAP is fun to drive too. Its major limitation is its range, which is limited to about 20 miles without getting another charge. What we need to further the use of all-electrics is more PLUG-IN STATIONS in the city. Simply access to the 115 volt ac power supply. I suggest this be promoted for all coffee houses, libraries, shopping centers, cafes, restaurants etc. A small fee would be reasonable.
Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely,
Jeff Douthwaite

Solectria Force tires

I have a '98 Solectria Force that needs a new set of tires. The origionals were Goodyear Invictus GL's P155/80R13. The tires are no longer made by Goodyear. Although other manufacturers make a similar all season radial, non can support the 44psi rating as recommended by Solectria. I've tried other sizes but ng on my mileage, like 10 - 20% less. Does any one have a solution?


I am a member of the Southend Neighbors for Justice and Peace. We were thrilled and priviledged to have Steven and John, among others, come and be with us for our showing of 'Who Killed the Electric Car?' a few months ago in Burien. I am wondering if there would be an openess to participating in our July 4th parade? We are trying to help our neighbors understand that to build a Peaceful world means to build a sustainable one. Your efforts go a long way towards educating and showing the ordinary citizen that EV is possible now and not the future and they can be a part of making the changes our world needs. Is there a way we can work together to make this happen for the parade? Thank you, Bill Opfermann

Petrofuel to Hybrid Conversion???

OK the US auto suppliers are making hybrids out of esentialy gas powerd production models or at least based on them. The EV world is taking petrofuel autos and converting them to all electric. Hybrid plug-in conversions are picking up steam. What I want to know is has anyone done a successful petrofuel to hybrid conversion?

I have a couple of diesels that I am running home brewed biodiesel in. My carbon footprint is therefore way smaller than the commercial hybrids avaiable. To further my carbn reduction I was considering putting an electric 'helper' motor on the otherwise unused rear end of my Jetta. Has anyone seen this been done or has it been shot down already?

Regards Rich

EV conversion motor adaptors

Hi everybody. Glad to find this Seattle based EV club and perhaps networking resource. I'm converting an 88 toyota PU to electric at the moment. Getting the parts from CA. In the future, would much prefer to get the parts; esp. the adaptor plate and hub fabricated here in WA right in King County. Does anyone know of anyone besides WA EV Parts that might do this - maybe a machine shop familar with these parts? Would absolutely love to get a response on this. It seems it would be the biggest solution for many EV'ers I talk to.

Thanks very much


Solar Assisted Electric Truck for members interested in charging their batteries with solar energy but can't bring their roof along, check out this link.

12kWh to produce 1 gallon of gas

I am trying to verify something I read on the Web: that it takes 12 KWH to deposit one gallon of gasoline in your tank. I have a partial verification of this, in that $0.62 of the cost of a gallon of gas is due to the refinery, and 40% of the cost of a refinery is electricity, so $0.25 of the cost of your gasoline is the electricity. If big refineries were paying the consumer rate for electricity, that would be about 3 KWH, but I suspect big consumers like refineries who get a much better rate, so I suspect that 5 KWH is more likely.

The rest would be in the pumping into and out of refineries, into and out of tanker trucks, the refining of the diesel for the tankers, and pumping into and out of gas stations, but I don't know how to quantify all of the latter. So any information about this would be helpful.

Now since 12 KWH = 1 gallon = 25 miles in a gas engine car, and since a well designed electric car should get 4-5 miles/KWH, we see that an electric car, not only uses no gas, but only half of the electricity that a gas engine car does! -- Larry Gales

Li-ion nanowire battery technology development

A link to information on Li-ion battery technology development by Stanford.

Yes, a link to that news already exists in the Li#Recent_News article, see item for date 2007.12.18. --Rjf 17:25, 24 January 2008 (CST)

New reader's blog at Seattle PI for EVs

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to make you all aware of a new reader's blog focused on EVs that I just found on the Seattle PI website:

EV Blog

Dr. Andrew Frank to Speak @ South Seattle Community College

I wanted to give you advanced notice about a speaker I’m bringing to the South Seattle Community College campus next month, Prof. Andrew Frank. I believe this speaker will be of interest to you and your members. Thank you for your time. Details:

Wednesday, May 28th, 2008 1 – 2pm Clock Tower Stage, SSCC Campus Prof. Andrew Frank (picture attached) Lecture, Rainbow Festival Activity Free & Open to the Public

Dr. Andrew Frank, professor of engineering at the University of California at Davis, is at the forefront of the alternative technology and electric vehicle movement. His UC Davis FutureCar and FutureTruck teams have consistently placed in the top rankings of these competitions. It is his theory that consumers will not only reap the benefits of lower operating costs, but also improved performance with plug-in hybrids.

Thanks, I've added that to our calendar EVents 2008 05 28 --Rjf 20:38, 16 April 2008 (CDT)

Electric Festiva for Sale

I built a 72 volt DC electric car about 18 months ago, using a 91 Ford Festiva, with help from Dave Cloud of Woodinville. I now need to sell it. How might I use your website to do this.

Mike Jackets
7306 Channel View Dr.
Anacortes, WA 98221
(360) 293-0530
Pictures available.
You might also post it in our new forum here:,21.0.html

Moving to WA -- Can I bring my electric car with me

I am moving back to Washington and I want to bring my California Roadster with me ( I am completely street legal (it is licensed/registered and insured), but I want to find out if my vehicle is permitted in King, Kitsap, Snohomish, and nearby counties. Here where I live in Southern California, it is registered as an NEV vehicle so I am restricted to streets 35mph or less---which is fine. But I don't have any idea of how to get confirmation I will be able to register and insure my car up in WA. If anyone can provide any insight on this, I would be so grateful to hear from you.

It appears that there is a dealer in North Bend, Wa. so I'm pretty sure they are legal here, though I can't confirm that they can be registered as NEV's. I'm sure that our organization would love to have you participate in our organization, join our mail list, come to some meetings when you get into the area. --Rjf 15:35, 11 November 2008 (CST)

Charging at SeaTac

This just in...

...just returned from the grand opening ceremonies for six charging stations at the SeaTac parking garage. All are on 110V 20 amp circuits and each charging station has resettable GFI’s that will trip above 15 amps to avoid dead circuits at the station. Bummer they are only 110V and it’s a pretty low tech system ... but at least it’s a start. The more promising news is that although users will have to pay the normal parking fees, the stations are well marked, have distinctive EV only signs above each space, and are absolutely free. I spoke with the airport facility manager as well as the head of environmental programs and they both understood the need to make the stations ultimately 220V compatible to better feed the higher capacity longer range EV’s. They seemed to understand the concept fairly well and the environmental guy was particularly receptive towards not only expanding into 220V, but also increasing the total number of stations as more EV’s enter the scene. .... chargng stations in the employee lots at the airport very soon.

   I am a real fan of electric vehicles. I own a really cool electric bike and it is a real great way to get around. However, I have one issue and that is the way outside temp effects the battery life. I have LiIon battery and when it is 60 or more I get at least 40 miles , however, when it is in the 40s I am lucky to get 20 miles. Does anyone have a similar issue.


New concept: Power Zones, with "free" energy storage.

Electric and hybrid vehicles need a new innovation to overcome the limits of battery technology.Present performance is not adequate to meet range expectations and the combination of cold weather, uphill grades and parasitic losses from heaters, AC, headlights, blowers and accessories make things even worse in the real world.

I have written a 5 page summary of a scheme to make electric vehicles much more practical, I am looking for evaluation and critiques. We even have a perfect test site here in Spokane. If you are interested, please send your email adress and I will forward a copy.

Dave Johnson:

EV's in Washington?

Does anyone know the average of Electric vehicles in Washington??

Average what? Number of EVs? Miles driven? Efficiency? --Rjf 00:24, 1 June 2009 (CDT)

electric conversion

Hi, are there people in your group that convert fuel cars to electric cars? And if so, how much would it be?

Yes, there are members of SEVA who convert gas cars to electric, you should come to one of our Meetings if you're in the area. The cost varies greatly depending on the type of car and desired range and performance from the conversion. Try Conversions and Local_Resources#EV_dealers.2C_converters_and_parts_suppliers --Rjf 21:05, 25 June 2009 (CDT)

Machine Milling Lathe work

Talked to one of your members, suggested I post here. I can fab/ modify small to medium sized metal parts, milling/ bandsaw/ lathe/ drill etc. Inside threading, shafts, brackets, etc. Just a hobby, looking to make a few extra bucks. Work within your budget.

Fuel Cell Powerplant

Hello there!

Does SEVA also caters to those people interested in fuel cell power generation for home and industry (machine shops, pizza store, etc.) needs.

Is there a fuel cell power generation association in Seattle or nearby? I am interested in electric cars but more so in power generation for home or business.



electric vehicle charging stations - purchasing info needed

Hi - My condo in Seattle is considering purchasing and installing an electric vehicle car charging station in the building's garage. Please send referrals for companies that sell and install charging stations - I've had no luck finding this info on the web.

Thank you, Mary Ann Owsley

Capstone Project on the viability of the Electric Vehicle

Dear Sir/Madam: We are a group of Syracuse University graduate students interest in Electrical vehicles and the viability of mobile charging for these vehicles. We ask, if possible, could you or your staff disseminate our survey to your members as to gauge interest and viability in this automotive sector. We would be more than happy to provide you with a copy of the survey results. The survey link is:

Thank you in advance Lucius Daye, MBA Grad Student, Syracuse University

Hello...Don Baer here

There doesn't seem to be a contact for assisting SEVA members with website access.

Who can I call or email?


At the bottom of every page is a "About SeattleEVA" link which will take you to a page with help and contact information. --Rjf 00:03, 1 October 2012 (CDT)

want to make a hybrid

take a geo tracker and put a forklift motor to the rear wheels and leave the front drive, will this motor be enough power to get to 55 mph, 48 volt with 60 volts of batteries. looks like I need about 4000 RPM. does this sound feasible?

want to make a hybrid

geo tracker with motor to rear

Shop for rent. Discounted for ev related use

Located in Covington. Kinda in the sticks but 1 mile off of HWY 18 off ramp at Covington (between Maple Valley and Kent.)

Available approximately March 15, maybe sooner.

1200 to 1300 square foot walled-off space in the hangar. (Have not taken exact dimensions yet.) L shaped hangar space that is @ 24 to 34+ feet deep and has a single 40 foot wide hydraulic hangar door. Opens the whole shop up to daylight weather permitting or provides a nice rain awning (LOL). Large concrete pad in front. Wired 120v and 240v. "Reasonable" utilities included. Hangar is in the basement of the house so there is pretty much 24-hour coverage of someone on the premises for security. Shared use of privy in the basement or you can even grab a shower upstairs if you need it. Freshly power washed floor and new paint. Can be used for discrete commercial purposes.

EV friendly/advocate landlord. Rent discounted to $600 a month if used for ev purposes. Bedroom possibly available in house if you want to live in or camp out. Landlord can be amazingly flexible. Everything is negotiable as long as everybody wins!

Contact Roger Wright