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	<title>Considerations - Revision history</title>
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		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=5218&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Highlander: cat (EVs)</title>
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		<updated>2006-06-16T14:16:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;cat (EVs)&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 14:16, 16 June 2006&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l29&quot; &gt;Line 29:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Big-7 auto makers are well under way developing Fuel Cell ELECTRIC Cars.  The jury is still OUT on this path, compared to Battery Powered &amp;quot;Charge at Home&amp;quot; Electric Cars, for it is obvious to us, that IF  Fuel Cell electric cars dominate, we will still be buying our &amp;quot;Fuel&amp;quot; from the likes of TEXACO, Shell, Standard Oil, BP and the like,  al be it a cleaner more eco-friendly fuel. The overall efficiency is not quite as great as a pure battery powered car, but it IS twice or more efficient than internal (infernal) combustion engines.   Sound like science fiction? Guess again, in Vancouver BC there are buses running daily, just as described, right now as you read this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Big-7 auto makers are well under way developing Fuel Cell ELECTRIC Cars.  The jury is still OUT on this path, compared to Battery Powered &amp;quot;Charge at Home&amp;quot; Electric Cars, for it is obvious to us, that IF  Fuel Cell electric cars dominate, we will still be buying our &amp;quot;Fuel&amp;quot; from the likes of TEXACO, Shell, Standard Oil, BP and the like,  al be it a cleaner more eco-friendly fuel. The overall efficiency is not quite as great as a pure battery powered car, but it IS twice or more efficient than internal (infernal) combustion engines.   Sound like science fiction? Guess again, in Vancouver BC there are buses running daily, just as described, right now as you read this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Category:Electric Vehicles]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Primary Page]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Primary Page]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Highlander</name></author>
		
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=5130&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>63.24.101.243: copy edit, spelling</title>
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		<updated>2006-06-10T20:52:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;copy edit, spelling&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 20:52, 10 June 2006&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{TOCright}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{TOCright}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have found your way here, you are half &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;the &lt;/del&gt;way to energy efficient personal transportation. Give yourself a big eco-ego pat on the back.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have found your way here, you are half&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;way to energy efficient personal transportation. Give yourself a big eco-ego pat on the back.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Five &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Things &lt;/del&gt;you should remember about electric cars:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Five &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;things &lt;/ins&gt;you should remember about electric cars:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Effeciency &lt;/del&gt;- EVs &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;can not &lt;/del&gt;carry as much energy as a fuel tank full of gas. For example the [[tzero]] has a very large capacity battery for an EV at &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;52kwh&lt;/del&gt;, yet the Honda &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Insights &lt;/del&gt;10 gallon tank is equal to well over &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;300kwh&lt;/del&gt;. Thus EV's must be extremely &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;effecient &lt;/del&gt;in order to make the best use of their limited fuel. This is why EVs commonly have a range of about 40 miles or so on just &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;10kwh &lt;/del&gt;of energy.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Efficiency &lt;/ins&gt;- &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Electric vehicles (&lt;/ins&gt;EVs&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;) cannot &lt;/ins&gt;carry as much energy as a fuel tank full of gas. For example the [[tzero]] has a very large capacity battery &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;pack &lt;/ins&gt;for an EV at &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;52 kwh&lt;/ins&gt;, yet the Honda &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Insight's small &lt;/ins&gt;10 gallon &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;gas &lt;/ins&gt;tank is equal to well over &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;300 kwh&lt;/ins&gt;. Thus EV's must be extremely &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;efficient &lt;/ins&gt;in order to make the best use of their limited fuel. This is why EVs commonly have a range of about 40 miles or so on just &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;10 kwh &lt;/ins&gt;of energy.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Industry Denial - Cars and trucks , and the oil industry which &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;drive &lt;/del&gt;them, are this &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;planets &lt;/del&gt;single largest environmental problem, and &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;its &lt;/del&gt;pretty much &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;in &lt;/del&gt;a state of denial, even from environmentalists. Just look at the number of electric cars &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;at &lt;/del&gt;the E.P.A. parking lot, or at Greenpeace, or Sierra Club&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. NEXT TO NONE!&lt;/del&gt;!  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Industry Denial - Cars and trucks, and the oil industry which &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;drives &lt;/ins&gt;them, are this &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;planet's &lt;/ins&gt;single largest environmental problem, and &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;there is  &lt;/ins&gt;pretty much a state of denial, even from environmentalists. Just look at the number of electric cars &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;in &lt;/ins&gt;the E.P.A. parking lot, or at Greenpeace, or &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;the &lt;/ins&gt;Sierra Club&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;: ''Next to none&lt;/ins&gt;!&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'' &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Availability - Electric cars are available for &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;any one &lt;/del&gt;with the vision or desire to own one. Good used ones from $2,900. New conversions from $8,900, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Plus &lt;/del&gt;a donor car. Remember, to convert a gas car to electric, is the highest form of recycling.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Availability - Electric cars are available for &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;anyone &lt;/ins&gt;with the vision or desire to own one. Good used ones &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;range in price &lt;/ins&gt;from $2,900. New conversions from $8,900, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;plus &lt;/ins&gt;a donor car. Remember, to convert a gas car to electric, is the highest form of recycling.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Environmantal &lt;/del&gt;Impact - Even if all our power came from coal and oil, (and it does not), because EVs are three times more efficient per dollar, we would have a net gain in air quality.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Environmental &lt;/ins&gt;Impact - Even if all our power came from coal and oil, (and it does not), because EVs are three times more efficient per dollar, we would have a net gain in air quality.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Investing in Future - An electric car bought today, will only get better over time. WIthin the next 3 years, batteries will be available which will double and triple your per-charge-range.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Investing in Future - An electric car bought today, will only get better over time. WIthin the next 3 years, batteries will be available which will double and triple your per-charge-range.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Read on in DETAIL &lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==40 MILES A DAY==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==40 MILES A DAY==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=4537&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Rjf: tzero correction</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-18T02:12:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;tzero correction&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 02:12, 18 March 2006&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;float: right; margin-left: 20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{TOCright}}&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have found your way here, you are half the way to energy efficient personal transportation. Give yourself a big eco-ego pat on the back.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have found your way here, you are half the way to energy efficient personal transportation. Give yourself a big eco-ego pat on the back.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Five Things you should remember about electric cars:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Five Things you should remember about electric cars:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Effeciency - EVs can not carry as much energy as a fuel tank full of gas. For example the &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Tzero &lt;/del&gt;has a very large capacity battery for an EV at 52kwh, yet the Honda Insights 10 gallon tank is equal to well over 300kwh. Thus EV's must be extremely effecient in order to make the best use of their limited fuel. This is why EVs commonly have a range of about 40 miles or so on just 10kwh of energy.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Effeciency - EVs can not carry as much energy as a fuel tank full of gas. For example the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[tzero]] &lt;/ins&gt;has a very large capacity battery for an EV at 52kwh, yet the Honda Insights 10 gallon tank is equal to well over 300kwh. Thus EV's must be extremely effecient in order to make the best use of their limited fuel. This is why EVs commonly have a range of about 40 miles or so on just 10kwh of energy.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Industry Denial - Cars and trucks , and the oil industry which drive them, are this planets single largest environmental problem, and its pretty much in a state of denial, even from environmentalists. Just look at the number of electric cars at the E.P.A. parking lot, or at Greenpeace, or Sierra Club. NEXT TO NONE!!  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Industry Denial - Cars and trucks , and the oil industry which drive them, are this planets single largest environmental problem, and its pretty much in a state of denial, even from environmentalists. Just look at the number of electric cars at the E.P.A. parking lot, or at Greenpeace, or Sierra Club. NEXT TO NONE!!  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Availability - Electric cars are available for any one with the vision or desire to own one. Good used ones from $2,900. New conversions from $8,900, Plus a donor car. Remember, to convert a gas car to electric, is the highest form of recycling.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Availability - Electric cars are available for any one with the vision or desire to own one. Good used ones from $2,900. New conversions from $8,900, Plus a donor car. Remember, to convert a gas car to electric, is the highest form of recycling.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=4381&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Rjf: Reverted edit of 85.98.115.72, changed back to last version by Rjf</title>
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		<updated>2006-02-23T22:27:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Reverted edit of 85.98.115.72, changed back to last version by Rjf&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;amp;diff=4381&amp;amp;oldid=4379&quot;&gt;Show changes&lt;/a&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=4379&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>85.98.115.72: /* Three times more Efficient */</title>
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		<updated>2006-02-23T19:28:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Three times more Efficient&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=4378&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>85.98.115.72: /* 40 MILES A DAY */</title>
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		<updated>2006-02-23T19:19:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;40 MILES A DAY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=3660&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Rjf: Pollution</title>
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		<updated>2006-01-24T10:12:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/mw/Pollution&quot; title=&quot;Pollution&quot;&gt;Pollution&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 10:12, 24 January 2006&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l12&quot; &gt;Line 12:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 12:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==40 MILES A DAY==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==40 MILES A DAY==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;From a psychological standpoint, the largest deterrent to wide spread electric car popularity is this ever present question of RANGE on a CHARGE. Today's electric cars, the affordable ones, not the dream machines from Detroit, can easily guarantee their owners a good solid 40 miles of range. These same cars can do 80 to 100 miles under the most ideal conditions of level road, warm day, steady 30 to 40 m.p.h. Now 40 miles may not sound like a lot, but in Seattle, and King County, the average daily miles traveled (average ..that is HALF OF ALL the cars) is probably less than 28 miles, and even in Los Angeles, it has been computed to be 38 miles a day. So if literally, half the planet earth is never driving over 40 miles a day, why can't half the planet be driving efficient, quiet, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;pollution &lt;/del&gt;reducing electric cars ?? Go figure ?? As I said, it is a Psychological barrier.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;From a psychological standpoint, the largest deterrent to wide spread electric car popularity is this ever present question of RANGE on a CHARGE. Today's electric cars, the affordable ones, not the dream machines from Detroit, can easily guarantee their owners a good solid 40 miles of range. These same cars can do 80 to 100 miles under the most ideal conditions of level road, warm day, steady 30 to 40 m.p.h. Now 40 miles may not sound like a lot, but in Seattle, and King County, the average daily miles traveled (average ..that is HALF OF ALL the cars) is probably less than 28 miles, and even in Los Angeles, it has been computed to be 38 miles a day. So if literally, half the planet earth is never driving over 40 miles a day, why can't half the planet be driving efficient, quiet, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[Pollution]] &lt;/ins&gt;reducing electric cars ?? Go figure ?? As I said, it is a Psychological barrier.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Largest Environmental Problem==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Largest Environmental Problem==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Far and away, the private automobile, and its INFRASTRUCTURE, is the single largest &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;pollution&lt;/del&gt;, and environmental problem source on planet Earth. Think about it. From oil exploration, to drilling, to refining, to transport, oil spills, world politics and yes, even WAR. It's the WORST. If we were to set down today and dream up the internal combustion engine, cars, gas stations, etc. Etc. The world would revolt at the thought. And yet here we are. More oil leaks from crank cases of cars and trucks just on the road, and while parking than all the EXXON Valdese accidents annually. There are alternatives, if we have the courage to face up to our own selfishness. There is car pooling, public transportation, bicycles, telecommunications, and yes ELECTRIC CARS.  It is also true that it can not be denied, that Geo-Politics is being driven by this countries &amp;quot;Thrust for Oil&amp;quot; and the control of it.  Let us all hope and pray that reason will win out over greed.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Far and away, the private automobile, and its INFRASTRUCTURE, is the single largest &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[Pollution]]&lt;/ins&gt;, and environmental problem source on planet Earth. Think about it. From oil exploration, to drilling, to refining, to transport, oil spills, world politics and yes, even WAR. It's the WORST. If we were to set down today and dream up the internal combustion engine, cars, gas stations, etc. Etc. The world would revolt at the thought. And yet here we are. More oil leaks from crank cases of cars and trucks just on the road, and while parking than all the EXXON Valdese accidents annually. There are alternatives, if we have the courage to face up to our own selfishness. There is car pooling, public transportation, bicycles, telecommunications, and yes ELECTRIC CARS.  It is also true that it can not be denied, that Geo-Politics is being driven by this countries &amp;quot;Thrust for Oil&amp;quot; and the control of it.  Let us all hope and pray that reason will win out over greed.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Cars are Available==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Cars are Available==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=3508&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Rjf: TOC on right</title>
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		<updated>2006-01-19T03:20:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TOC on right&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 03:20, 19 January 2006&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;float: right; margin-left: 20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have found your way here, you are half the way to energy efficient personal transportation. Give yourself a big eco-ego pat on the back.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you have found your way here, you are half the way to energy efficient personal transportation. Give yourself a big eco-ego pat on the back.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=2385&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Rjf: Cat</title>
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		<updated>2005-11-26T12:18:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cat&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table class=&quot;diff diff-contentalign-left&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 12:18, 26 November 2005&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l27&quot; &gt;Line 27:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 27:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Big-7 auto makers are well under way developing Fuel Cell ELECTRIC Cars.  The jury is still OUT on this path, compared to Battery Powered &amp;quot;Charge at Home&amp;quot; Electric Cars, for it is obvious to us, that IF  Fuel Cell electric cars dominate, we will still be buying our &amp;quot;Fuel&amp;quot; from the likes of TEXACO, Shell, Standard Oil, BP and the like,  al be it a cleaner more eco-friendly fuel. The overall efficiency is not quite as great as a pure battery powered car, but it IS twice or more efficient than internal (infernal) combustion engines.   Sound like science fiction? Guess again, in Vancouver BC there are buses running daily, just as described, right now as you read this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Big-7 auto makers are well under way developing Fuel Cell ELECTRIC Cars.  The jury is still OUT on this path, compared to Battery Powered &amp;quot;Charge at Home&amp;quot; Electric Cars, for it is obvious to us, that IF  Fuel Cell electric cars dominate, we will still be buying our &amp;quot;Fuel&amp;quot; from the likes of TEXACO, Shell, Standard Oil, BP and the like,  al be it a cleaner more eco-friendly fuel. The overall efficiency is not quite as great as a pure battery powered car, but it IS twice or more efficient than internal (infernal) combustion engines.   Sound like science fiction? Guess again, in Vancouver BC there are buses running daily, just as described, right now as you read this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Category:Primary Page]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.seattleeva.org/mw/index.php?title=Considerations&amp;diff=1255&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>24.22.211.8: /* Next 3 Years */</title>
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		<updated>2005-08-15T09:34:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Next 3 Years&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table class=&quot;diff diff-contentalign-left&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 09:34, 15 August 2005&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l22&quot; &gt;Line 22:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 22:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Next 3 Years==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Next 3 Years==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I want to give you a little &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;peak &lt;/del&gt;over the horizon. In no way should this deter the millions and millions of motorists, who could drive electric cars for the last 10 years from buying one today. A gas car, once taken from the show room starts to deteriorate and literally &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;ware &lt;/del&gt;out from the inside out, due to friction and heat, and constant up and down, in and out of the hundred of moving parts. On the other hand, a nice 2003 electric something, come 2005, or 2006 will get a new infusion of new tech. batteries, and the car will perform better than NEW. It will go farther, faster, and quicker, than originally advertised. One near term batteries to keep an eye on is the metal nickel hydride battery from Ovonic, of Troy Mich. The Ovonic Green battery is even twice as powerful as lead acid and uses less toxic materials. GM used them in their GM EV-1 Generation II.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I want to give you a little &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;peek &lt;/ins&gt;over the horizon. In no way should this deter the millions and millions of motorists, who could drive electric cars for the last 10 years from buying one today. A gas car, once taken from the show room starts to deteriorate and literally &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;wear &lt;/ins&gt;out from the inside out, due to friction and heat, and constant up and down, in and out of the hundred of moving parts. On the other hand, a nice 2003 electric something, come 2005, or 2006 will get a new infusion of new tech. batteries, and the car will perform better than NEW. It will go farther, faster, and quicker, than originally advertised. One near term batteries to keep an eye on is the metal nickel hydride battery from Ovonic, of Troy Mich. The Ovonic Green battery is even twice as powerful as lead acid and uses less toxic materials. GM used them in their GM EV-1 Generation II.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Over the horizon just a bit further, there are lithium batteries , now being used and perfected in lap top computers and cell phones. It has been estimated that if the 800 so pounds of advanced metal nickel hydride batteries which can now power the GM EV-1 some 120 miles were to be replaced with lithium, that the range would triple to well over 300 !! .  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Over the horizon just a bit further, there are lithium batteries , now being used and perfected in lap top computers and cell phones. It has been estimated that if the 800 so pounds of advanced metal nickel hydride batteries which can now power the GM EV-1 some 120 miles were to be replaced with lithium, that the range would triple to well over 300 !! .  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Big-7 auto makers are well under way developing Fuel Cell ELECTRIC Cars.  The jury is still OUT on this path, compared to Battery Powered &amp;quot;Charge at Home&amp;quot; Electric Cars, for it is obvious to us, that IF  Fuel Cell electric cars dominate, we will still be buying our &amp;quot;Fuel&amp;quot; from the likes of TEXACO, Shell, Standard Oil, BP and the like,  al be it a cleaner more eco-friendly fuel. The overall efficiency is not quite as great as a pure battery powered car, but it IS twice or more efficient than internal (infernal) combustion engines.   Sound like science fiction? Guess again, in Vancouver BC there are buses running daily, just as described, right now as you read this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Big-7 auto makers are well under way developing Fuel Cell ELECTRIC Cars.  The jury is still OUT on this path, compared to Battery Powered &amp;quot;Charge at Home&amp;quot; Electric Cars, for it is obvious to us, that IF  Fuel Cell electric cars dominate, we will still be buying our &amp;quot;Fuel&amp;quot; from the likes of TEXACO, Shell, Standard Oil, BP and the like,  al be it a cleaner more eco-friendly fuel. The overall efficiency is not quite as great as a pure battery powered car, but it IS twice or more efficient than internal (infernal) combustion engines.   Sound like science fiction? Guess again, in Vancouver BC there are buses running daily, just as described, right now as you read this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
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